合一知見身心靈成長

巴關對德國學員在線達顯的記錄

合一大學網站上傳於 2013.4.19

以下文字由合一知見志工翻譯

Q1: Dear Bhagavan, you talk about transformation of the Awakened people. How canI know that my transformation is in progress? How can I know that I am on the rightway? Could you please give some examples? Thank you, Bhagavan.

Sri Bhagavan: There are two kinds of experiences. The awakened experience and theconversion experience. We have different experiences. We first give you the awakeningexperience. This could either be sudden or gradual. This makes you awakened. When wesay you are awakened what it means is you could be aware of what is going on any time.

You could still get angry, you could still get hurt. But your awareness, you could instantly get out of it. The one who has had a conversion experience is a transformed person. He or she does not get angry or hurt in the first place. After your awakening we are moving to a deep conversion experience. Saints and sages have gone through the conversion experience. It is only if you have had a conversion experience you could get close to God. Those who have had this experience speak and talk with God.

問題1：親愛的巴關，您談到過覺醒者的轉化。我怎麼知道我的轉化正在進行呢？我怎麼知道我走在正確的路上呢？您可以給我一些例子嗎？謝謝巴關。

巴關：體驗分為覺醒和轉化兩種。我們首先會給予你覺醒的體驗，那可能是突然就發生或是漸進地去經驗；這過程會讓你覺醒。

當我們說你覺醒了，意思是你隨時可以覺知到正在發生着什麼。你還是會生氣，你還是會受傷。但是你的覺知可以讓你立刻脫離它。有轉化體驗的人是一個已經轉化了的人。他在事情發生時就不會生氣或受傷。在你覺醒之後，我們就進入深度的轉化體驗。聖賢都經歷過轉化的體驗，當你有轉化體驗時，你才能親近神。有過轉化體驗的人是與神同在的。

Q2: Dearest Sri Bhagavan, how to establish Oneness Communities? Please,

give us some advice, Bhagavan.

Sri Bhagavan: First of all, those who want to be part of this community must be awakened.

You must then create a virtual community. You must know every other member of thiscommunity and be friends with them. And then you must take the intent to make it into aphysical community. Very soon miracles would start and you would actually see a physicalcommunity emerging, which means land would come, money would come, everything would start happening. All that would simply fall into place. The difficult part is to get awakened and to get to know other awakened people very closely and establishing friendship with them. Out of this friendship great things would emerge. I do bless that Germany soon will have a Oneness Community.

問題2：親愛的巴關，我們如何建立合一社區呢？您可以給我們一些建議嗎？

巴關：首先，想成為社區一份子的人必須覺醒。然後你要創建一個虛擬的社區。你必須認識社區裡所有其他的成員，並與他們成為朋友。然後你必須立下意圖，讓它成為一個實體的社區。很快的你就會看到奇蹟開始發生，實際上，你會看到實體的社區開始出現。也就是說，土地有了，資金有了，一切開始發生，所需的一切會輕易地到位。比較難的部分是使人覺醒以及緊密地結識其他覺醒者並發展出友誼；從這份友誼中會產生偉大的事物。我祝福德國很快會有一個合一社區。

Q3: Thank you, Bhagavan. This question is from Bhagavan’s daily teaching: “God

is unknowable; like the cell can never know the body”. Dear Bhagavan, could you

explain this, please?

Bhagavan: You could walk and talk with God, but you cannot know or understand God. This applies to everything. Nothing can be truly understood. Nothing in this universe can really be understood. Nothing in this universe can really be known. It will not remain the unknown, but it would remain the unknowable. That is what it means.

問題3：謝謝您，巴關！這個問題出自巴關的每日教導：“神是不可知的；就像細胞永遠不能知道身體一樣。”親愛的巴關，您可以解釋一下嗎？

巴關：你可以與神一起行走說話，但你無法知道或理解神。這道理適用於一切事物。沒有一件事能被真正的理解。在這宇宙裡，沒有事物可以真正被知道。它不僅是未知的，它還是不可知的。這就是這個教導的意思。

Q4: Bhagavan, one of the main signs for being awakened is that there is no suffering.

What is the main sign for God-Realization, Bhagavan?

Sri Bhagavan: When you are God-realized you actually walk and talk with God. It is not theway of speaking, you could shake hands with God. It is that real. People are doing it now. Itwill soon happen to all awakened people. God will be your friend, not some imagined figure.

問題4：巴關，覺醒的一個主要特徵是沒有受苦。那了悟神性的主要特徵是什麼？

巴關：當你了悟神性時，你真的與神一起走路、說話。這不是說說而已，你可以與神握手，這是真的。人們正在這樣做，這很快會發生在所有覺醒者身上。神將成為你的朋友，而不只是一個想像中的形體。

Q5: Dear Bhagavan, I am confused about different teachings. On one hand

I should go into helplessness and open up for the Divine to do it. Another teaching

says that I cannot expect the Divine to do everything, so it means still I have to do

anything?

Sri Bhagavan: Intent and effort is yours. Grace is from the Divine. You cannot do anythingwithout intent and effort. For example, one gentleman once came to me. He told me: I want a particular piece of land. I told him: Go and get it, I will help you. He said: No, no. He said: I will not move out of my house. Somebody must buy the land and then bring it to my house and give it to me. I told him: That is not possible. So you have your role to play, the Divine has its role to play. When we say helpless it does not mean not doing anything. It only means certain things you cannot do. There the Divine comes in. But some basic things you have got to do. Like that man should go and see a lot. He should go and raise funds then the Divine would help him everywhere. Of course, there are some exceptional cases. There are a few people in India whom we know. When they want some money they exactly tell AmmaBhagavan: This is the money we want. And, believe it or not, the cash appears in their hands. Not once in a while – every day. But these have an excellent bond with the Divine and so it is happening. If one does not have that kind of a bond, one has to put an intent and effort.

問題5：親愛的巴關，我對於不同的教導感到困惑。從一個角度來說，我應該成為無助的，向神性臨在敞開來為我做一切。另外一個教導說，我無法期待神做所有事，所以，這表示我還是得努力嗎?

巴關：意圖和努力是你的那部分。恩典來自神性臨在。沒有意圖和努力，你無法做任何事。例如，有一位男士曾經來找我。他說：“我想得到某塊土地。”我說：“去爭取吧，我會幫助你。”他卻說：“不，我不能離家半步，得有人去買那塊地，然後把它帶到我家來給我。”我跟他說：“那是不可能的。”你有你的角色要扮演，神也有神的角色要扮演。當我們說“要無助”時，那並不代表什麼都不用做。它是說有一些事是你做不到的，這時就要交託給神。但一些基本的東西你還是得做。剛剛說的那位男士，他應該去看那塊地，去籌備資金，然後在每一個地方神性臨在都會幫助他。

當然也有一些特殊例子。在印度，我們知道有幾個人，當他們需要錢時他們只要跟阿瑪巴關說，這是我們需要的數目，然後，信不信由你，錢就出現在他們手中。不是偶爾發生哦，是每天發生！這些人與神有極佳的連結，所以它會發生。如果一個人沒有這樣的連結，那他還是得下意圖和努力。

Q6: Sri Bhagavan says: “That awakened person must get transformed”. I humbly ask

Sri Bhagavan that when the person is not there, then who is getting transformed?

Sri Bhagavan: The observer is the observed. For the unawakened person there is this

division between the observer and the observed. When you get awakened this divisionseizes. You realize the observer and the observed are one. So, I shall repeat: if you seethe observer and the observed as separate, you are unawakened. Once you are awakened beyond the level you see that the observer and the observed are the same. That is the change we are talking about.

問題6：巴關說過：“覺醒者必須得到轉化。”我想謙卑地請教巴關，並沒有一個人存在的情況下，是誰被轉化了？

巴關：觀者就是被觀者。對於未覺醒者而言，觀者與被觀者是有分別的。當你覺醒了，這個分別就卡住了，你意識到觀看與被觀者為一。所以我重複：如果你將觀者與被觀者視作分離的，你就還未覺醒。一旦你覺醒超越某個層次，你看到觀者與被觀者是同一個。這就是我們所談的變化。

Q7: Thank you, Bhagavan. This is also from another Bhagavan’s daily teachings: “Godis being shaped and reshaped by us”. How can I understand this? I always thoughtthat God is leading us?

Sri Bhagavan: God has been there through time, the whole time. But as we change,God changes. As God changes, we too change because we are not separate from God.But always God is leading us because He is the whole and we are the part. In mysticaldimensions one can clearly see this.

問題7：謝謝您，巴關！這是另一個請教巴關每日教導的問題：“神正在被我們塑造和再塑造。”我該如何理解這句話？我一直以為神在帶領着我們？

巴關：自有時間以來，神一直都存在。但是當我們改變時，神也改變。當神改變時，我們也改變，因為我們與神並沒有分離。但神也在帶領着我們。因為祂是整體，而我們是部分。在神秘的次元，我們可以清楚地看到這點。

Q8: Dear Bhagavan, love to you. So much love to you. My brother has a gambling

addiction and he is keeping this secret from his family. How can we help with

addiction and loaded secrets? Thank you.

Sri Bhagavan: Prayer and Deeksha would help. I’ll also help your brother.

問題8：親愛的巴關，我要獻給您如此多的愛！我的哥哥對賭博上癮，而且他不讓他家人知道。我們如何能對他的癮頭和積壓的秘密做些什麼呢？感謝您！

巴關：祈禱和合一祝福能有幫助。我也會幫助你哥哥。

Q9: Bhagavan, can you explain what the kundalini is and how it works in the

awakening – transformation – God realization process?

Sri Bhagavan: Kundalini is an energy which works on the chakras. The chakras aregateways to the brain. By acting on the chakras the kundalini works on the brain. It activates certain areas of the brain and de-activates certain areas of the brain. Through activation and de-activation, it brings about transformation in you.

問題9：您能否解釋昆達里尼（拙火）是什麼，以及它在覺醒—轉化—了悟神性的過程中所扮演的角色？

巴關：昆達里尼是一種運作在脈輪上的能量。脈輪是通往大腦的門戶。經由作用於脈輪，昆達里尼影響到大腦。它活化大腦的某些區域，也會降低一些區域的活躍度。透過這樣的活化和降低活躍度讓你得到轉化。

Q10: Who are the light beings we sometimes see? Why are so many close to OnenessUniversity and its campusses?

Sri Bhagavan: These are awakened beings from the past. Some of them are thousands ofyears old. All of them are involved in this process of awakening humanity. You see them inlarge numbers at the University because work is going on at the University. If tomorrow you form a community, you’ll find them there.

問題10：我們時不時看到的光的存有是誰？為什麼在合一大學附近和它的校區有這麼多？

巴關：這些是過去的覺醒者。他們有些已經幾千歲了。他們都投入喚醒人類的這個過程。你在合一大學看到很多，因為這裡有工作在進行。如果明天你創立一個社區，你也會在那兒看到他們。

Q11: Bhagavan, if time and space is an illusion, how does this relate to “past life

experiences”? Did past lives really happen in the past?

Sri Bhagavan: In higher mystical states we can clearly see how time and space are a mere illusion. Past lives do not mean they happened in the past. Past lives can be happening right now concurrently. But you have to be a great mystic to see that. It’s really amazing. We could be leading several lives at the same time. Not only in different realms but also on the same planet. It is not that you are only a single body. You could be in many bodies at the same time. One body of yours would be in Germany, another could be in the US, another could be in Africa, another could be in India. At the same time. It’s very difficult to understand this intellectually. But mystically one can see it clearly. Not only that, it could exist in several realms at the same time. We have about 21 realms. If one is awakened in all the realms, then in India one is called a Paramahamsa. Paramahamsa means awakened in all realms. The actual reality is very different from what we think it is. We are great and vast beings. Not the small being you think you are. But as you go on the path all these things will become very clear to you. With that would come late transformation.

問題11：巴關，如果時間和空間都是幻相，那麼我們要如何看待前世的體驗呢?前世真的發生在過去嗎?

巴關：在更高的神秘境界中，我們可以清楚的看到時間跟空間僅僅是幻相。“前世”不代表它發生在過去。“前世”可以是在現在同時發生。但是你必須是一個高深的神秘家（mystic）才可以看到這個現象。它是非常不可思議的。我們可以同時活好幾世。不僅是在不同的“界”（realm)，也可以在同一個星球上。你並不只是一個身體。你可以同時活在很多個身體裡。你的一個身體可能在德國，另外一個在美國，另外一個在非洲，另外一個在印度; 而且是同時存在著。在心智上很難理解這一點。但是在神秘的領域裡，可以清楚地看到這一點。不僅如此，你也可以同時存在於不同的“界”。我們大約有21個界。如果一個人在所有的界中都覺醒了，那麼在印度我們稱這樣的人為帕拉瑪罕撒（Paramahams，字面的意思是“至尊的天鵝”）。帕拉瑪罕撒（Paramahamsa）代表在所有界都覺醒了。

實相與我們所想的是非常不同的。我們是偉大、浩瀚的存有。不是你所認為的一點點而已。當你走在靈性道途上時，這一切都會越來越清楚。隨之而來的是偉大的轉化。

Q12: Beloved Bhagavan. My deepest thanks for all the glorious gifts we get from You.Since my Awakening all experiences have become much more lively and intensive.

It feels as though now I start to really understand what you are saying. I start feelingYour wisdom and see the Divine Presence as the ultimate truth. But I also feel that Iexperience suffering stronger than before. How can I distinguish between my personalsuffering and the suffering of the others around me? Thank you, Bhagavan.

Sri Bhagavan: As transformation happens all this will become very clear.

Sri Bhagavan: Love you all.

All: We love You, Bhagavan.

問題12：摯愛的巴關，深深地感謝您給予我們所有的寶貴禮物。自從我覺醒之後，所有體驗都變得更加生動和密集。感覺好像現在我才開始真正理解您所教導的東西。我開始看到您的智慧，看到神聖臨在就是終極真理。但我也感覺我經驗的痛苦也比以前更強烈了。我如何分辨我本人的痛苦和我週遭人的痛苦呢？謝謝巴關。

巴關：當轉化發生時，這些東西都會變得非常清楚。

巴關：我愛你們!

集體：我們愛你，巴關！